Jubei's assesments of the Gospel

The Sanctity of Marriage?

Well, the moment I figured would come eventually has finally arrived. I had began a writing of “Homosexuality and the church” a while ago but I was stopped during that writing. It was covering the issue that the Anglican churches in Europe and American had regards homosexual marriages being performed in the church. As you can see, there is no huge Curse coming towards the Anglican church in America because they have adopted the practice. Main reason, they’re not of the kingdom of god anyway, so no issue. Yet the reason God came upon the people of Babel has once again surfaced in proof that mankind will achieve whatever it sets its mind to achieve and thus without thinking of the damage it will do to itself. Gay and lesbian marriage is legal in the state that the entire country, not only the entire country but the entire world eventually follows suit, California.

I often believed that people, when they put their minds to something can achieve great things both for good or evil. This is something that was inevitable as even the proponents against the legalization for gay and lesbian marriage had to know deep down inside that they couldn’t stop it, but they could delay it until such time more people would accept it in our Judeo-Christian society.

 Still, as we move on with our daily lives we recognize that God  really hasn’t come out and stated that he was against it, only that those in the church based upon teachings felt, or convinced themselves that God is against this activity.

If we as “saints” are aware of the situations we could have called this with Braille, So why the uproar? If you know the actions of a certain individual would invoke a certain reaction on your part, why be upset when it occurs? You knew it was coming. The main problem is “incorrect understanding regarding the areas of church authority.

I’m not saying to embrace it, but what I am saying is to let the world do what the world will do. You can’t stop it, we were not called to halt all the sin of the world, but to call people out of it. Therefore let me approach the marriage questions with this mind. There is no loss in this battle because it is not a battle that God is undertaking because it is his to put together and his to tear asunder.  Regardless most people are not brought together by him anyway either in the church or out of it for that matter, so what’s the difference. If you get married on your own merit, you take the risks associated with that choice of union. The divorce rate is so high not because God put the wrong two people together, but because people put themselves with the wrong person for the wrong reasons.

                        Moral compass

So the question now becomes, is it “morally correct”. Biblically speaking there is no statute in all honesty in the messianic laws or rabbinical laws nor Christian apostolic successive rights that outlaw gay marriage, because it never occurred. There were homosexual relationships since homosexual relationships were just as normal an activity as any heterosexual relationship. In many cases they were synonymous with the expectation of marriage.  Yet the apostles and Judaism had an entirely different perspective on the matter. The pursuit of “strange flesh” was condemned by God in his judgment upon the cities of “Sodom & Gomorrah”. (Jude 1:7)

When we look at Homosexuality we must take into account the churches exposure to the core lifestyles from the beginning that encompassed homosexual activity in it’s arguments to the apostles.

1.       The Epicureanism – Neutrality of Gods, that gods do not interfere in the lives of humans (soft atheism). That man is materialistic in nature and that this is justifiably acceptable. Thus the pursuit of pleasure of the body and mind, without the aversion to violence or suppression of others freedoms is the ultimate sense of moral stability and happiness.

2.       Stoicism – Cosmic determinism and human freedom. Virtues reside in the will of each human, either Good or bad depends only upon a man himself. The poor can be just as virtuous as any rich man and hardships can be endured in happiness and in harmony with nature. In death he can die nobly and with honor, and such every man has perfect freedom, as long as he cuts himself off from mundane desires of the flesh. Self control and fortitude.

In Athens the apostle Paul is said to have disputed with these philosophers on these and other matters of the origin of life and since these men were simply consumed with the philosophical ideal of humanism, the doctrine of Paul intrigued them so that they heard him in deeper relativity.

How does this flow into Homosexuality?

So from this we see that Gay/lesbian activist promote this position continuously throughout their fight. That laws which prohibit the pursuit of happiness are not justifiable laws and should be revoked.

Simply because Christians do not like homosexuality does not mean that those non-Christian should endure the principles of those who are. That is domination.

Stoiks  - teaches the development of self-control and fortitude as a means of overcoming destructive emotions; the philosophy holds that becoming a clear and unbiased thinker allows one to understand the universal reason (logos). A primary aspect of Stoicism involves improving the individual’s ethical and moral well-being: "Virtue consists in a will which is in agreement with Nature."This principle also applies to the realm of interpersonal relationships; "to be free from anger, envy, and jealousy", and to accept even slaves as "equals of other men, because all alike are sons of God.

How many times has this been used to justify homosexuals as simple people equal to heterosexuals who just choose to engage in relationships with other men. At one time the fear was that homosexual men force themselves on heterosexual men thus converting them into homosexual men. In my understanding of the events, many heterosexual men who have engaged in relations with women are not accepting of any relationship with homosexuality even if thrust upon them and so do not change unless willing to do so.

Yet children can be influenced to accept the activity as normal if the life experience forces the choice upon them too young. Generations are influenced into homosexuality if acceptable levels of the practice reach acceptable terms. Yet without these levels of acceptance I can’t see where homosexuality can flourish to unacceptable levels.

But like I have stated before, the heart of man is wicked beyond his means. The fears that people have concerning this particular sin is warranted, mainly because man knows man simply because man will without a doubt “push the envelope” of acceptable levels. Yet we cannot determine things based upon justifiable fears, only on substantial truths of the matter and this is that Homosexual humans have every right to the pursuits of happiness that heterosexual people do based upon our laws as a nation.

Marriage?

 What of the marriage question? The position is that marriage is an “institution of god” and thus is sacred. Yet the truth is that people were being joined in marriage prior to the Christian churches influence into the matter. Gnostic priests, pagan priests, priestesses and others were marrying people before the Christian church, during the inception of Christianity, and even afterwards. Yet now we have standardized the arrangement of marriage for human beings under the rites of the church for us civilized peoples.

So now people arrogantly state that marriage is an institution of Gods making validated through the church alone. Yes it is of gods making, but it is in regards to mans first law….”be fruitful and multiply”. That’s it. There is no law that says that the carrying out of marriage vows must be done within the church. This we acknowledge with the resident “justice of the peace” district judge, the captain of vessels upon the high seas all legally able to perform legitimate marriages even though they are not ordained pastors or priests.

In each regards to Homosexuals however they are excluded in the church regarding the ordaining of marriage. This is perfectly acceptable, as the church is an entity that ministers it’s self unto the statues of its tenants. If a homosexual wishes to be married, a church should not be “forced”, “induced” nor convinced into agreements. The church has its own manner of disposition on the matter so as sinners frolic so let them.

The concern is that the government forces churches to accept or recognize homosexual marriage as an institute acceptable by God and the church. This is where a state or local government agency will cross the line into slapping god in his face and this is where the Christian fight can be justified. Yet Short of this activity being performed, the church has no moral leg on which to stand. It is all hoopla that should not be used to justify ones commitment to God.

Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:21