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The artistry of healing and prosperity messages contradicted

The War room — Posted by jubei @ May 12, 2008 11:13
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The Art of Healing and Prosperity messages

 

Let us look into the healing and prosperity messages of the day by first looking at the same messages of the past, and the first thing you will notice is that the number one trend of these message occur during great historical times of woe or perilous moments or era’s in history. This leads many skeptics to believe that the advocating of these messages have a direct influence on the state of peoples welfare rather than actual belief in the gospel’s teachings on the matter.

 

The bible teaches that the prosperity of the lord is greater than the riches of the world and that we as saints are to understand that the glory we receive in Christ supersedes the earthly riches here on earth. Christians are also likewise counseled on the wiles of profit and gain of treasures here on earth rather than in heaven.

What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul…. Mark 8:36

 Yet we bask in a time where pastors of flocks shout out…ask god for your blessing and believe on it and that thing shall come to past.  Walk as though you have received that which you ask and it shall be yours for this is the greater faith.

And so many people’s measure of faith in God is that believing as such that God will provide them the requests of their heart and that constant prayer and supplication is required for those who don’t believe having shown proof of their unbelief in the fact of the request not coming into fruition.

Do not tempt the lord thy god.

Often we find ourselves requesting God’s favor on our behalf for something that God has decided not to give favor upon. This Balaam activity….what You don’t know what balaam activity is? Neither did I, so let’s look at it.

In a nutshell, the children of Israel were in the wilderness, and as they traveled they conquered many tribes with the assistance of God. They came to rest in the valley of Moab as they sojourned on. Now Balaam was a prophet of sort’s of God unto the children of Moab. Their king of Moab, Balak, sent word to Balaam and requested him to curse the children of Israel as they ventured into Moab and asked to pass through peacefully. Balaam set out to do just that, and he prepared to ask God to curse the people of Israel, but instead of a curse God told balaam to bless them for they were blessed. (Numbers 22:12)

Then Balak, after hearing that Balaam would not curse them because God told him not to, sent word to balaam and told him to come see him and after receiving counsel from God giving him permission to go speak with balak, Balaam agrees to go with the second contingent of men sent, but to only say what God told him. Now for some reason, God gets angry with Balaam and places an angel in his pathway while he was riding his donkey.  It is not known what caused god to get angry with Balaam, so it is speculated that Balaam decided that, to save his own neck he would say something different than what God told him to say.

According to the angel, Balaam had devised in his heart a means to please both the king of what he wanted and his view of what god wanted. Evidenced in Numbers 22:32

If we read Numbers 22:32 we can see a very interesting scenario, It seems that a very important vision has revealed itself. Because it states this:

Num 22:32 And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because [thy] way is perverse before me:

 Now remember prior to this in Numbers 22:12 and 22:20 God told Balaam what he wanted Balaam what to say, so why the anger if balaam followed his orders from god directly? He didn’t he came up with some other plan and god stopped him and told him he was angry.

What is the point on this story? Obey God at all times, also do not pray for the changing things god has already established.   Now am I saying that we should not pray for anything? No, what I am saying is that as Balaam found out, that God has his way about doing things and carrying things out, that is contrary to our flesh, desire and understanding on matters. It is the holy spirit that we use to send petition before the lord. But if the lord is not in agreement with our petition then what do we do? Repetition? How often? Are we to change the mind of god on a matter? No it is impossible to change gods mind. Only he can. God doesn’t change his mind, he simply stops what he had already started in motion before damages can be done on many stages.

The only time God has ever changed his mind about something is……..never. He may have stopped, but he did not change his mind.

Requesting Prosperity

This can be summed up in, Can we then pray and request of god the desires of our heart. Is it not written that we who are of the kingdom. One of the passages of scripture used to justify the prosperity messages are such.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

The message is tied to giving, But giving of what? Tithes? Offerings? What of the tithe. Is it to be given unto God for Gods sake or for the temple or church? Does it assist in the furthering of Gods kingdom or the destruction of the gospel?

Matthew 7:6-17 tells us to give not to an tithe, but to those in need. For this is the spirit of god. I am not saying that we should not give the tithe, but we are required to give to the needs of those who ask. If you see a need, fill a need.  This is the message of prosperity that must go out. Not to ask of God for the richness of the earth. For what profit is there in that?

True prosperity is marked by the king of the kingdom, not by the quantity of the person’s worth. While I don’t begrudge any man the bounty of his brow, for this is pleasing unto God. But let’s be real, you don’t bring into the church a man associated with monetary growth, to fill the people of your flock with mannerisms to obtain wealth, and then sit down to pray for God’s blessing upon the people to adhere to the message.

Keep the things of Ceaser unto Caeser and the things of God unto God.   This is more prosperous than any message telling you to follow some plan that is supposed to unleash monetary blessings.

Healing I shall begin with stating thus..

Matthew 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

Isaiah 33:22-24 the lord is our Judge, our lawgiver and our king, and the inhabintants of the kingdom of god shall not say they are sick for they are forgiven of their sins.

Not in so few words, but you get the gist of what it says in this manner of speaking. The inhabitants of the kingdom are forgiven they’re sins. Being sick or contracting diseases are a normal part of Mankind, of  the things that Jesus stated before healing someone and as evidenced in the writings concerning Jesus and healings performed, was that he always forgave their sins. Occasionally he forgave their sins and did not heal their bodies of the infirmities they brought before him.

One of the most powerful undeniable statements concerning healing is when Jesus spoke with his followers prior to his ascension unto heaven that….

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.(keyword-Believers, so he goes forward to define some of the attributes of believers)
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;(in the name of jesus shall the removal of sins and spirits contrary to Gods work be done), They shall speak in new or unknown prior tongues, utterances)
Mark16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.(they shall commit sins and they shall not be condemned, and they shall comfort the hurting of mankind and they shall recover)

I commented in red the things that in our language we understand these passages to mean. The one that I want to speak of now is regarding “they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover”

As this is an attribute of receiving the holy-ghost and being known as a believer of Christ, the healing of the sick part seems to be the only real point of contention. If a person is sick of cancer, and they come to a believer, is the person going to leave “cancer free”? No

Is it then because one of either party has some hidden or unknown level of unbelief? Not really

-you see every human has a law to his or her existence. Jesus healed the sick immediately because he was God himself. The apostles healed the sick sometimes immediately sometimes not, because they performed the will of the “holy-Ghost” in all things, and it pleased god because it was in his plan to build a solid foundation to the church. We as saints, are indwelled with the same power that our establisher of the church held. Why then in this day and age does God not seem to heal immediately or not yet decisively ?

One reason can be because of a lack of faith on both parties, the other could be that it’s not in gods plan to heal the people being presented, and in this case are the words in the scripture null and void?

Remember God performs his will as he wishes, So then do we pray for healing and if nothing is healed do we then state God is not going to heal the person or that the core beleif of the person doing the praying false?

My take on the statement in Mark 16:18 is not that God will heal sickness in the flesh, but rather that the believers shall present the gospel to sinners and they shall accept the gospel. You see men seek after signs, miracles and convincing arguments to the existence of God, and when none comes the faith is invalidated and the beleif is foolishness. God does not work to prove he is god to those who by sheer grace are entered into the kingdom. He's already proved his power, you either beleive he did or dont. No skin off his nose. Yet in the forgiveness of sins, in which the heart becomes the eye, God does amazing thing in front of our own eyes.

Now it seems like I’m doing what other cult or Gnostics do and that is mess with the words of the scripture or doing a play on words using definitions of terms to bolster my position. Neither one is occurring I assure you all. What  I’m doing is applying what I know of the old testament to the new.

In the Old testament, When the prophets laid hands on something it was upon the sacrifice, or upon that thing which was to be executed upon by the law, whether it be a bull, goat or man who sinned.

Lev 4:15 And the elders of the congregation shall lay their hands upon the head of the bullock before the LORD: and the bullock shall be killed before the LORD.
 

Next

Lev 16:21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send [him] away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:

As well as

Lev 24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard [him] lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
 

And finally

Num 8:12 And the Levites shall lay their hands upon the heads of the bullocks: and thou shalt offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering, unto the LORD, to make an atonement for the Levites.
 

In all these references we see that the priesthood would lay their hands upon one that was to be sacrificed as a sin offering before the lord. Now of course a man who sinned is not an acceptable sacrifice but the example is just to show that the reference of laying on of hands was used to grasp something for the purpose of exacting the law of God upon. So let’s apply this practice to the Gospel.

They shall lay their hands upon the sick…..They shall present the man who is sick as a sacrifice to the lord……they shall bring the sinner before god…..they shall bring the representative for Christ before God

And he shall be restored?

The Old Testament uses the term “restore” to mean “give back or gave back that which was removed”

He shall be brought back unto his place of origin. If our place of origin is in the kingdom, or the garden, then our state of existence is to be “Redeemed” is it not.

I don’t think people actually even looked at the scriptures before they used them to justify holy healings and such.

Believers are given the power and authority to present unbelievers to God for restoration. This is performed through witnessing, and prayer and presentation or in other words they can “baptize”. Does this then mean that “every” person a saint brings before God will be restored? Yes' because they are presenting the sacrifice to God for acceptance. "If that sacrifice is acceptable", in other words it has obeyed the lord and is acceptable to Christ, then the lord shall accept it and that sacrifice shall be taken, accepted and redeemed or restored. Just because people want others to be acceptable does not mean that God is bound to accept it.

The sacrifice is sold out, it’s understanding and control over it’s destiny is relinquished. It has said in itself, I know my soul resides in the belief with the ones performing the sacrifice, and thus I submit.

The only sacrifice unacceptable is a sacrifice that God does not wish to be performed.

 I wrote a paper a while ago outlining the process of redemption, and in it I stated that Baptism was synonymous with “presenting” the sacrifice before God.  All of the things in Mark is equal to the things written in Matthew and Luke and John concerning our lord Jesus.

 


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